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reporter: the president started his day in israel with the tour of the iron dome, which is the missile defense system that the u.s. government has actually funded a large part of. >> united states of america stands with the state of israel because it is within our fundamental national security interest to stand with israel. it makes us both stronger. it makes us both more prosperous, and it makes the world a better place. >> reporter: the president's day is going to be heavy with meetings of israeli officials, the president, perez, prime minister netanyahu. the two of them will have a joint press conference where no doubt the lead topic news of the day in the region has to do with syria and chemical weapons. have they been used and who used them. israeli government officials confirming chemical weapons have been used. they are not sure who used them, the rebels or the assad regime. the united states government has confirmed any of that but we will hear from the president. he has talked about the use of chemical weapons as a red line when it comes to syria. president will overnight here. tomorr
reporter: the president started his day in israel with the tour of the iron dome, which is the missile defense system that the u.s. government has actually funded a large part of. >> united states of america stands with the state of israel because it is within our fundamental national security interest to stand with israel. it makes us both stronger. it makes us both more prosperous, and it makes the world a better place. >> reporter: the president's day is going to be heavy with...
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new ads from the freedom defense initiative run by commentator and blogger pamela gellor quote anti-gay messages from islamic leaders. one quotes iran's president saying, "homosexuality is ugly. and in iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country." gellor, who lives in new york means this as a response to harsh criticism from city leaders about her first set of bus ads, anti-islamic in nature. last week, city and local religious leaders gathered to condemn the ads. as a publication, legal experts say muni is unable to refuse the ads because of conflicts with the first amendment. legal challenges to remove similar ads from city buses in new york and chicago have been unsuccessful. muni dedicated revenue from the first set of ads to the human rights commission and will likely also donate the money from these six ads as well. we reached out to pamela gellor but have not heard back. monte francis, "today in the bay." >>> new this morning, we just heard from a christian preschool in the east bay about changes in store for students when they return to school today. you'll recall center
new ads from the freedom defense initiative run by commentator and blogger pamela gellor quote anti-gay messages from islamic leaders. one quotes iran's president saying, "homosexuality is ugly. and in iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country." gellor, who lives in new york means this as a response to harsh criticism from city leaders about her first set of bus ads, anti-islamic in nature. last week, city and local religious leaders gathered to condemn the ads. as a...
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this was prompted by the defense attorney. he is charged with grand theft for allegedly stealing that 82 foot sail boat and running it aground in pacifica on march 4. >>> today the board of supervisors voted to approve regulations that subjects electronic cigarettes to the same controls at tobacco. that means e smokers can't puff up in parks. e cigarettes cannot be sold to minors. health officials say the vapor pose a secondhand health hazard. the board of supervisors will take a second vote. >>> a legislator is proposing legislation to make marijuana safer for patients. it would establish a division of medical cannabis regulation and enforcement. this would be part of the state department of alcohol beverage control. it would ensure that medical marijuana patients aren't exposed to toxic substances and will help reduce the criminal element involved. >>> chez panisse will be closed longer than originally expected. opening day has been postponed indefinitely at this point. the march 8 fire damaged the outside of the restaurant
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. >> it cannot go back to the 1967 lines, because these lines are in defensible. >> reporter: and those confrontations didn't make the president popular here. nearly 40% of israelis feel the president is hostile to israel according to a recent poll. the president hopes to improve his popularity with an address to young people. >> each side has symbols and extraordinary sensitivities and the problem is that each side's symbol is the other side's problem, so you have to find a way to connect with each side emotionally. >> reporter: for their part the israeli embassy released a humorous video claiming the obama/netanyahu relationship is better than many believe. ♪ thank you for being a friend traveled down the road and back again ♪ >> reporter: there's that symbolism i was telling you about, savannah. in more serious business today we expect syria to probably be the hot topic of the press conference between the prime prime minister, because israeli government officials say chemical weapons have been used in that syrian conflict. u.s. officials have not said that. we'll be curious to he
. >> it cannot go back to the 1967 lines, because these lines are in defensible. >> reporter: and those confrontations didn't make the president popular here. nearly 40% of israelis feel the president is hostile to israel according to a recent poll. the president hopes to improve his popularity with an address to young people. >> each side has symbols and extraordinary sensitivities and the problem is that each side's symbol is the other side's problem, so you have to find a...
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were part of serious air defenses? >> as we all know, the syrian situation continues to become worse and worse. 70,000 people killed, refugees pushed out of the country. no end in sight to a vicious civil war. the alliance has taken a position that it will follow the same sequence that was used in libya, which is to say prior to nato involvement, there would have to be a u.n. security council resolution regional agreement and an agreement among the 28 patients. so within nato, what we are focused on is defending now with syria. and we would move patriot missiles down to do that. in terms of what else is happening in an individual nation by nation basis, there is a great deal of discussion of everything you mentioned, no-fly zones, arms embargoes, etc. it is moving individually, but it has not yet come into nato as an overall nato type of approach. it is focused, planning, being prepared. but the movement at the moment is in the individual national way. >> does that include some countries that are thinking about the pos
were part of serious air defenses? >> as we all know, the syrian situation continues to become worse and worse. 70,000 people killed, refugees pushed out of the country. no end in sight to a vicious civil war. the alliance has taken a position that it will follow the same sequence that was used in libya, which is to say prior to nato involvement, there would have to be a u.n. security council resolution regional agreement and an agreement among the 28 patients. so within nato, what we are...
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joining us now, fox is legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. good to have you with this. >> i love this. good to be your. lou: former prosecutor, now criminal defense attorney. good to have you with us. let's begin with you. your reaction to what is happening with this so-called expert witness. this is taking psychology in all sorts of directions. >> absolutely. none of and that isn't a pro teeseven uncomfortable for the defense cannot basically their own expert witness turned into n impeachment witness which basically means that now their own expert is testifying about a variety of lies with the client has told, so this has got to be a difficult situation for the defense and it cannot be helping lou: and apparently the defense witness, expert witnesses now saying in his defense that it is not an easy thing to do to evaluate someone. >> listen. experts are paid to give an opinion, usually favorable to the side that is paying. this guy got on the stand and said, hey, listen, not on the did she tell me a couple of dozen lives, but i don't think t
joining us now, fox is legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. good to have you with this. >> i love this. good to be your. lou: former prosecutor, now criminal defense attorney. good to have you with us. let's begin with you. your reaction to what is happening with this so-called expert witness. this is taking psychology in all sorts of directions. >> absolutely. none of and that isn't a pro teeseven uncomfortable for the defense cannot basically their own expert witness...
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and therefore i think the first line of defense. i think we have multiple lines of defense, very extensive and sophisticated monitoring at a much higher level and much more comfort hensley and we have had in the past, and we have regulation where we work with other agencies to try to cover all the uncovered areas in the financial system, and in addition we try to use the communication and similar tools to affect the way the financial market response to monetary policy. so we do have some first lines of defense which should be used first. that being said, i think given the problems we have had, globally in the last 15, 20 years that we need to at least take into account these issues as we make monetary policy, and most people would agree with that. what that is exactly depends on the circumstances. if the economy is in a very weak condition in interest rates are very low for that purpose, it is very difficult to contemplate raising rates a lot because you're concerned about some sector in the financial fear. if you're in an expansion
and therefore i think the first line of defense. i think we have multiple lines of defense, very extensive and sophisticated monitoring at a much higher level and much more comfort hensley and we have had in the past, and we have regulation where we work with other agencies to try to cover all the uncovered areas in the financial system, and in addition we try to use the communication and similar tools to affect the way the financial market response to monetary policy. so we do have some first...
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today the defense did their best to patch those. including at one point where he admitted she lied to him of course during his tests but he believes she could have elm bell lished even more meaning his test was still valid. take a listen. >> now, if somebody wanted to make things seem worse for themselves like they have had bad things happen to them in the past, could somebody on this particular test answer yes to any one of these questions? >> yes, they could, and their scores would go up accordingly. >> a much easier day on the stand for dr. samuel today shepard as he was with the defense team for most of the day. shep? >> shepard: what's the thinking on whether he is actually helping this defense team? >> you know, we're going to have a good idea tomorrow that's because when the jurors will get the questions again. you remember that a couple days and a trial ago when the jodi arias was questioned by the jury. same thing with this defense witness. he will be questioned by the jury tomorrow. both attorneys will have a chance to try
today the defense did their best to patch those. including at one point where he admitted she lied to him of course during his tests but he believes she could have elm bell lished even more meaning his test was still valid. take a listen. >> now, if somebody wanted to make things seem worse for themselves like they have had bad things happen to them in the past, could somebody on this particular test answer yes to any one of these questions? >> yes, they could, and their scores...
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a defense witness is exposed. details straight ahead in top ko thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and d with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply salutin history... we're making it. ♪ lou: well, we want to tell you about the bible. the miniseries and the history channe it is the number one sunday night. it is the number one show on television. not this year or less your. according to nielsen almost 11 million viewers tune in this bassinet a watch the third episode in a serieshich begins to explore the new testament, introduces the jesus and what is the mainstream liberal -- the mainstream liberal media focused on, obsessed between binding in resemble to the resemblance between the bible's satan character and obama. noting the actor playing
a defense witness is exposed. details straight ahead in top ko thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and d with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply salutin history... we're making it. ♪ lou: well, we want to tell you about...
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this is a mental defense for jodi arias. >> it's a self-defense defense. >> suffering from posttraumatic stress syndrome and does not recall what happened. that is part, dan, of a very complicated self-defense, and they have to call an expert, a medical expert. >> no, they don't. >> otherwise, that can be brought up on cross-examination and it can also be brought up in closing arguments. >> yeah. >> nonproduction of a vital witness -- i'm sorry. i'm having a problem hearing. i keep hearing dan in my ear. >> i know because every once in a while the corrections are necessary, so that's what you're earring in your ear like saying, nancy, you got that one wrong. yeah. >> we have lots to get to. jodi arias spent 18 days on the stand and we'll discuss that and many more things to come here, dan and nancy, thank you very much. >>> time now for another look at the weather and our samuel j. sam? >> we'll start with the western areas that are picking up a brand-new hit of rain and a little bit of mountain snow with this thing. this area of low pressure becomes important because it splits off to an
this is a mental defense for jodi arias. >> it's a self-defense defense. >> suffering from posttraumatic stress syndrome and does not recall what happened. that is part, dan, of a very complicated self-defense, and they have to call an expert, a medical expert. >> no, they don't. >> otherwise, that can be brought up on cross-examination and it can also be brought up in closing arguments. >> yeah. >> nonproduction of a vital witness -- i'm sorry. i'm having a...
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defense secretary chuck hagel say help us end this hunger strike but the u.s. taining it's not a big deal. my reporting from new york also spoke on the phone to captain jason write a member of the defense team for some of the detainees in guantanamo here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners find themselves in when i first walked in grenada rent a week ago i met with my client my half inclined i was shocked to see the change in the parents more weight and concern in the description of. people who are out about the conditions of confinement the government. can only talk about i can tell you that american forward with other defense attorney. told me. stories about how what happened. in the social. world come after the break. technology. developments. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know about i'm sorry welcome to the big show. you. thanks for staying with us you're watchi
defense secretary chuck hagel say help us end this hunger strike but the u.s. taining it's not a big deal. my reporting from new york also spoke on the phone to captain jason write a member of the defense team for some of the detainees in guantanamo here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners find themselves in when i first walked in grenada rent a week ago i met with my client my half inclined i was shocked to see the change in the parents more weight and concern in the...
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defense secretary chuck hagel say help us end this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal. paul reporting for us from new york well i want to you also spoke with . jason de rohan to member of the defense team for some of the detainees he's in guantanamo who are in guantanamo know here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners find themselves in. when i first walked the grim meeting room people to go and i met with my client my half inclined i was shocked to see the change in the parents. and the overall concern and the description and he gave people a whole lot about the conditions of confinement because the u.s. government would have everything back about and i can only talk about the meeting i can tell you that the american forward with other defense attorneys never even. told me any story about how what happened with the cross or what happened with this also because it is fairly personal it's not really. iraq continues to be marred by violence ten years after the u.s. led invasion we look at high stability in the ca
defense secretary chuck hagel say help us end this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal. paul reporting for us from new york well i want to you also spoke with . jason de rohan to member of the defense team for some of the detainees he's in guantanamo who are in guantanamo know here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners find themselves in. when i first walked the grim meeting room people to go and i met with my client my half inclined i was...
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>> beyond a reasonable doubt. >> she admitted to doing it. >> she said it was self-defense. >> self-defense. i don't think the jury gog believe that all the weeks that she testified and all the questions she got from the jury showed that the jury,. >> self-defense. >> so you both agree that what she is putting out there as a defense is bogus and you both think she is guilty. here is the question. the state of arizona going to execute her? >> right. there is four women, to be the fourth woman put on death row if they find her guilty in the penalty phase. i think there is a chance they dual that ultimately executed? probably not. the other three have not been. >> she will be given a sentence of death. but she will be able to 20 years. >> i don't think she will get a death sentence. look at her and feel so ever her. >> death qualified. you can't be on the jury for this case unless you would agree to uphold and you don't have a problem with the death penalty. >> bill: i couldn't be on. i want to tell everybody i'm against the death penalty. i would sentence these people who hard labor which is
>> beyond a reasonable doubt. >> she admitted to doing it. >> she said it was self-defense. >> self-defense. i don't think the jury gog believe that all the weeks that she testified and all the questions she got from the jury showed that the jury,. >> self-defense. >> so you both agree that what she is putting out there as a defense is bogus and you both think she is guilty. here is the question. the state of arizona going to execute her? >> right....
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defense secretary chuck hagel say help us end this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal. marina pod and i are reporting from a new york for us and our g. also spoke on the phone to captain jason derives a member of the defense team for some of the detainees raising guantanamo now here's what he told us about the condition of the prisoners find themselves in when i first walked into the meeting room three weeks ago when i met with my client my current i was shocked to see the change in the parents last. year overall concern and the description here didn't. think a whole lot about the conditions of confinement because the u.s. government stated that we can talk about this broken only talk about meaning i can tell you that when i conferred with other defense attorneys in other he'd be. called the same exact story about how what happened with the current search is what happened with the soldiers it is for a universal it's not a risk. syria's government and rebels are accusing each other of launching a chemical attack near the north
defense secretary chuck hagel say help us end this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal. marina pod and i are reporting from a new york for us and our g. also spoke on the phone to captain jason derives a member of the defense team for some of the detainees raising guantanamo now here's what he told us about the condition of the prisoners find themselves in when i first walked into the meeting room three weeks ago when i met with my client my current i was...
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criminal defense tore, jose baez also joins us live,nd lisa bloom, a legal analyst for a avo.com. all right, i want to start with you, jean casarez, and i'm going to pose these questions to all three of our panel. but it has to do with just how much this jury can take before they say, i'm done, or if they will say it. and i'm going to start with all of the things they've had to digest from the beginning. thu number one, she doesn't remember so much of the actual killing. she just wants them to believe it was ptsd or some kind of a condition, that she blacked out in her rage. she stayed with this man, a monster, because she testified, he abuses her all the time, but she stays with him. she rents a car from a location far away there her house and puts gas cans in the back of it, filled with gas, so that she doesn't run out of gas while driving through the night, to go on a trip, where she kills him. i will continue, but i'm going to stop there. jean casarez, by that point in the trial, was the jury shaking their heads? >> you know, i find this jury very, very focused, very intent, w
criminal defense tore, jose baez also joins us live,nd lisa bloom, a legal analyst for a avo.com. all right, i want to start with you, jean casarez, and i'm going to pose these questions to all three of our panel. but it has to do with just how much this jury can take before they say, i'm done, or if they will say it. and i'm going to start with all of the things they've had to digest from the beginning. thu number one, she doesn't remember so much of the actual killing. she just wants them to...
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get ortho home defense, a special buy at just $6.88. waiting for your wrinkle cream to work? neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair has the fastest retinol formula. to visibly reduce fine lines and wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you taste is the fruit. so even you... could've had a v8. >>> coming up on half past the hour. and breaking news out of france, nbc news has confirmed that the head of the international monetary fund has had her apartment in paris searched. all goes back to the sale in 2007 of adidas. and she's beinging investigated to see if she participated in the abuse of public funds. she says she is innocent and does not plan to step down as imf chief. >>> meantime, mark sanford has completed phase one of his improbable comeback. once the butt of jokes, he finished first last night among 16 republican candidates with an impressive 37% of the vote. and he's advanced to next month
get ortho home defense, a special buy at just $6.88. waiting for your wrinkle cream to work? neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair has the fastest retinol formula. to visibly reduce fine lines and wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you taste is the fruit. so even you... could've had a v8. >>> coming up...
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i do believe it is a constitutional role of defense. i do not believe it is an ideological-driven defense structure. for our defense and national security, but also looking at our rule in the world as the only true superpower -- our role in the world as the only true superpower here there are issues we have and responsibilities -- only true superpower. there are issues we have and responsibilities around the world. we have large defense spending, but we are also seeing that begin to be looked at and come back in line with the needs and things we have to do. host: our last collar for congressman doug collins, go ahead -- our last caller for congressman doug collins, go ahead. caller: i'd like to address a couple of things. there have been great individuals throughout u.s. history, micro and macro. we woudld not have gotten here o this point without them. secondly, the miliatary. trong. military is s it is great. it is powerful. but i see too much demenaning of the current government with megaphones which weakens it. government a strong t
i do believe it is a constitutional role of defense. i do not believe it is an ideological-driven defense structure. for our defense and national security, but also looking at our rule in the world as the only true superpower -- our role in the world as the only true superpower here there are issues we have and responsibilities -- only true superpower. there are issues we have and responsibilities around the world. we have large defense spending, but we are also seeing that begin to be looked...
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defense secretary chuck hagel say help us and this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal. reporting for us from new york well also i spoke on the phone to you captain jason de ruyter a member of the defense team of some of the detainees in guantanamo and here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners find themselves in and i first one could really repeat weeks ago and i met with my client my half inclined i was shocked to see that you've been hearing more. and your concern you know the description again that he gave people a whole lot about the conditions of confinement because your government. about it can only talk about the meeting room i can tell you that the american progress other defense attorney never. told me any story about how what happened with the crown searches what happened with the source of it is. still ahead for iraq continues to be marred by violence ten years after the u.s. led invasion we look at stability in the country. and revel. in syria playing the blame game after a chemical attack that kill
defense secretary chuck hagel say help us and this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal. reporting for us from new york well also i spoke on the phone to you captain jason de ruyter a member of the defense team of some of the detainees in guantanamo and here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners find themselves in and i first one could really repeat weeks ago and i met with my client my half inclined i was shocked to see that you've been hearing...
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i can tell you the american other defense attorney never. told me any story about how what happened. with the social q's. still ahead for you this hour iraq continues to be marred by violence ten years off a big u.s. led invasion we look at how stability in the country's proving to be divisive and. government syria playing the blame game for a chemical attack that killed twenty five people and wounded dozens. of a foreign intervention more off this quick break. technology innovation all the developments from around russia we've. covered. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. he is easy to do it's easy to be easy. to meet. such stuff. back. was welcome back a group linked to al qaeda says they are behind the so-called bloody tuesday attacks in baghdad when sixty five people died in a series of blasts across
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this does not cripple defense. this merely brings it to a realistic level and sharing in the reconstruction of this economy of ours. with that let me yield one minute to the gentlelady from california, ms. waters. the chair: the gentlelady from california is recognized for one minute. ms. waters: thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank mr. ellison and mr. grijalva for their leadership with the congressional prog caucus. i rise in support of the back to work budget. let me just say it again. back to work. this is what this budget is all about. ladies and gentlemen, investment in our infrastructure. we have bridges that are falling apart. streets that need repaired. water systems that need upgrading. we can create jobs. the republicans and the ryan budget talks about jobs. they talk the talk but they don't walk the walk. i try to get an amendment on the tiger program to increase funding for jobs in transportation which we need so badly. they rejected that. they rejected that because they are focused on making sure t
this does not cripple defense. this merely brings it to a realistic level and sharing in the reconstruction of this economy of ours. with that let me yield one minute to the gentlelady from california, ms. waters. the chair: the gentlelady from california is recognized for one minute. ms. waters: thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank mr. ellison and mr. grijalva for their leadership with the congressional prog caucus. i rise in support of the back to work budget. let me just say it again....
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defense secretary chuck hagel say help us and this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal. reporting from new york for us well also you also spoke on the phone to captain jason de ronde a member of the defense team for some of the detainees he's in guantanamo now here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners finding themselves in when i first walked in grimmy room people to go with my car and my afghan car i was shocked. to hear more. and your concern with descriptions of. people who are out about the conditions of confinement because your government. can only talk about i can tell you that american progress other defense attorney never. told me. story about how what happened across or what happened with the social q's. a quick look now at some other news making headlines around the world u.s. lawmakers have decided to ban on assault weapons from proposed gun control legislation officials say the measure lacks support but it's believed a ban could later be voted on as a separate bill though polls show most americans b
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before he left the airport, president obama was shown an area displaying israeli air defenses including the so-called iron dome. then the motorcade saided to jerusalem where the pred will have a little down time before meetings today. our own chuck todd is in jerusalem. he joins me now. chuck, looks like to be a rather pleasant day at least weather-wise. what is going on in the holy land? >> well, mr. russert, it is unbelievable weather here greeting the president. pretty much a perfect spring day, if you will here in the holy land. what was interesting is the first thing the president said as he got off and there were microphones everywhere, i don't think he knew he was on, he said it's good to be away from congress. also that chitchat as making his way through shaking hands with various dignitaries, he and netanyahu were heard joking about difficulties in the budget process that both leaders are having in each of their countries. but, look, this event, you set it up well. this trip is heavy on symbolism, going to be somewhat light on substance as far as what, you know, what is he goin
before he left the airport, president obama was shown an area displaying israeli air defenses including the so-called iron dome. then the motorcade saided to jerusalem where the pred will have a little down time before meetings today. our own chuck todd is in jerusalem. he joins me now. chuck, looks like to be a rather pleasant day at least weather-wise. what is going on in the holy land? >> well, mr. russert, it is unbelievable weather here greeting the president. pretty much a perfect...
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we were on the defensive for 18 months. how does that happen? when you don't have a ground game, when you don't have a message, you don't have organization, i guess that's what happens. >> susan, the big question here -- >> i want my money back. >> i will now make a totally nonpartisan point of view which is true. every political party that blows it says we didn't get our message across. they all say it. in other words, our message was divine. >> there's truth to that to a certain extent, chris. you know, part of the process begins with how you communicate what you believe. >> is that why mcgovern lost? is that why goldwater lost? didn't get their message across? is that why mcgovern -- >> that's a different era. >> your party got its message across with the 47%. that got the message across. >> that's part of it. >> that was what the party believes. >> that's not what the party believes. that's my point. >> it's what romney believed. he said it. >> that's what romney said. that's not necessarily what anybody else believed. but that's what he sai
we were on the defensive for 18 months. how does that happen? when you don't have a ground game, when you don't have a message, you don't have organization, i guess that's what happens. >> susan, the big question here -- >> i want my money back. >> i will now make a totally nonpartisan point of view which is true. every political party that blows it says we didn't get our message across. they all say it. in other words, our message was divine. >> there's truth to that to...
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defense is cut by an additional quarter of a trillion dollars. a cut by an additional quarter of a trillion dollars over the sequester cuts we already had and over the reductions the defense department voluntarily took upon itself during the last budget process. i come before this body before, mr. chairman, and encouraged this body in a bipartisan fashion to look to the defense department as possible ways to save money. under the belief there must be some money in the defense department that can be saved in a responsible fashion. what the senate has done goes so far beyond that it's hard to fathom. an additional quarter trillion dollars in defense spending reductions over the next 10 years. finally and perhaps most tellingly and most importantly the senate budget never balances. ever. never balances. what does that say? they have interoperable plan for ever repaying the debt. you cannot repay the debt until we start moving to surplus. and any budget that never goes to surplus never pays down the debt. i say before i say it again, if you borrow mo
defense is cut by an additional quarter of a trillion dollars. a cut by an additional quarter of a trillion dollars over the sequester cuts we already had and over the reductions the defense department voluntarily took upon itself during the last budget process. i come before this body before, mr. chairman, and encouraged this body in a bipartisan fashion to look to the defense department as possible ways to save money. under the belief there must be some money in the defense department that...
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the president was on defense because a reporter from israel questioned and suggested the president, the u.s. has 0 done nothing to stop the salute nowhere syria. the president pushed back and said while it hasn't been arms support there were other support. he was skeptical about reports the syrian rebels were using chemical weapons. the president was careful not to get drawn into the allegations and stressed the u.s. is investigating whether or not the regime offal sad, we have to investigate whether or not chemical weapons were used but said if chemical weapons were used by the regime. listen to what will happen. >> when you start seeing weapons that can cause potential devastation and mass casualties, and you let that jeanie out of the bottle, then you are looking potentially at even more horrific scenes than we've seen in syria and the international community has to act on that additional information. >> reporter: the international community would have to act. that was the key part there in what the president said. he is facing pressure from israel and others. another stop on the tri
the president was on defense because a reporter from israel questioned and suggested the president, the u.s. has 0 done nothing to stop the salute nowhere syria. the president pushed back and said while it hasn't been arms support there were other support. he was skeptical about reports the syrian rebels were using chemical weapons. the president was careful not to get drawn into the allegations and stressed the u.s. is investigating whether or not the regime offal sad, we have to investigate...
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in addition to all of the aid that his administration has provided, including iron dome, including defense funding for israel during very difficult times, he has announced that we are going to begin talks on another ten-year process, arrangement, to ensure american military assistance to israel. i think this is very significant. and i want to express my thanks for everything that you have done and i want to thank you also for that statement you just made. i think it is very, very important. so i think israelis will judge this by the unfolding event and by what is happening. what is actually taking place. and for this, you know, there is a simple answer for your question. the gentlemen from nbc. see, a another term as president and another term as prime minister. that fixes things. >> thank you very much, everybody. >> president obama and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu just wrapping up their pros conference in jerusalem. let's get right to andrea mitchell who is there with more on what with we just heard. andrea, lots of ground covered today. >> a lot of ground covered. i think w
in addition to all of the aid that his administration has provided, including iron dome, including defense funding for israel during very difficult times, he has announced that we are going to begin talks on another ten-year process, arrangement, to ensure american military assistance to israel. i think this is very significant. and i want to express my thanks for everything that you have done and i want to thank you also for that statement you just made. i think it is very, very important. so...
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this is an offensive team that the defense department would use to defend the nation if it were attacked in cyber space. joining me now from washington to discuss the developing battle ground david sanger of the "new york times." welcome. >> great to be back with you. >> tell me why security experts are saying this has become if not our biggest national security threat the one emerging with the most concern for them. >> well it's certainly our newest and it may be among the urge else as it's an issue of consider debate. it's urgent because there are cyber attacks on the united states, mostly on u.s. corporations that take place every single day. but these are mostly attacks to sweep up vast amounts of intellectual property. whether it's an automobile design, the design of a gas pipeline, could be any kind of commercial information that chinese or other companies might find useful. that isn't really at the center of the biggest national security concern. the biggest national security concern is what happens if a foreign power or a foreign hacker, a non-state actor manages to get into crit
this is an offensive team that the defense department would use to defend the nation if it were attacked in cyber space. joining me now from washington to discuss the developing battle ground david sanger of the "new york times." welcome. >> great to be back with you. >> tell me why security experts are saying this has become if not our biggest national security threat the one emerging with the most concern for them. >> well it's certainly our newest and it may be...
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this is the defense shield that was so successful only in november of last year as israel was able to defend itself against incoming rocket fire from gaza. the u.s. spent $6 million over three years on the system. it is expected to reaffirm its commitment to israel and the iron dome program. >> thanks so much for that. the pentagon is launching an investigation into the safety of tars following an explosion monday night on a base in nevada. this morning the military confirms eight marines have died and six injured. >> reporter: this evening veterans and civilians alike joined together at a memorial service to honor the soldiers lost and those wounded in an explosion during a training exercise on monday at the hawthorne army depot in november. >> it's strange you go overseas to fight and you come back home and get killed. the soldiers were taking part in mountain warfare training at the hawthorne army depot. a mortar round exploded in a mortar tube. >> we don't know what caused this malfunction. >> reporter: typically a 60 millimeter mortar is manned by one or two people. the fact that
this is the defense shield that was so successful only in november of last year as israel was able to defend itself against incoming rocket fire from gaza. the u.s. spent $6 million over three years on the system. it is expected to reaffirm its commitment to israel and the iron dome program. >> thanks so much for that. the pentagon is launching an investigation into the safety of tars following an explosion monday night on a base in nevada. this morning the military confirms eight marines...
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that was followed by a tour of israel's iron dome missile defense system. he met behind closed doors with shim mon peres. they also a -- shim mon per -- shimon peres. >> in this work, the state of israel will have no greater friend than the united states. >> the president is meeting with benjamin netanyahu at his residence for dinner. the focus on israeli -- the focus is on israeli peace, the nuclear program and the civil war in syria. over the next two days, he will be making stops in the west bank and jordan. >>> the recommendations of a year-long study to improve oakland schools, we've just learned that the commission was study and the recommendations include moving up the date when teachers are hired. the report says delays often allow candidates to find jobs in other districts. the study also recommends simplifying teacher evaluations. teacher say teacher ratings are too confusing. the group advises lengthening the work day of the teachers. the official work day up to seven hours is among the shortest in california. >>> conflicting reports about how ma
that was followed by a tour of israel's iron dome missile defense system. he met behind closed doors with shim mon peres. they also a -- shim mon per -- shimon peres. >> in this work, the state of israel will have no greater friend than the united states. >> the president is meeting with benjamin netanyahu at his residence for dinner. the focus on israeli -- the focus is on israeli peace, the nuclear program and the civil war in syria. over the next two days, he will be making stops...
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that was followed by a tour of israel's iron dome missile defense system. he met behind closed doors with shim mon peres. they also a -- shim mon per -- shimon peres. >> in this work, the state of israel will have no greater friend than the united states. >> the president is meeting with benjamin netanyahu at his residence for dinner. the focus on israeli -- the focus is on israeli peace, the nuclear program and the civil war in syria. over the next two days, he will be making stops in the west bank and jordan. >>> the recommendations of a year-long study to improve oakland schools, we've just learned that the commission was study and the recommendations include moving up the date when teachers are hired. the report says delays often allow candidates to find jobs in other districts. the study also recommends simplifying teacher evaluations. teacher say teacher ratings are too confusing. the group advises lengthening the work day the teachers. the official work day up to seven hours is among the shortest in california. >>> conflicting reports about how many
that was followed by a tour of israel's iron dome missile defense system. he met behind closed doors with shim mon peres. they also a -- shim mon per -- shimon peres. >> in this work, the state of israel will have no greater friend than the united states. >> the president is meeting with benjamin netanyahu at his residence for dinner. the focus on israeli -- the focus is on israeli peace, the nuclear program and the civil war in syria. over the next two days, he will be making stops...
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get ortho home defense, a special buy at just $6.88. advil pm® or tylenol pm. the advil pm® guy is spending less time lying awake with annoying aches and pains and more time asleep. advil pm®. the difference is a better night's sleep. with fancy feast mornings pains gourmet cat food.sleep. (announcer) make mornings special, mornings are delicious protein rich entrees with gden veggies and egg. fancy feast mornings. the best ingredient is love. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she...
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from new york for us also you also spoke on the phone to comes in jason do you write to member of the defense team to some of the detainees who are in guantanamo now here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners finding themselves in when i first walked to the meeting room. i met with my client my car i was shocked. more one. hundred. people who are out of. government. can only talk about. i can tell you the american. story about how what happened. still ahead for you this hour iraq continues to be maad by violence ten years after the u.s. led invasion we look at how stability in the country is proving to be divisive. rebels in syria and the plane after a chemical attack that killed twenty five people and wounded dozens. of foreign intervention that a more after the birth. place . please. i believe. well. clearly it's technology innovation called the least of elements from around russia. the future covered. wealthy british stock. market. find out what's really happening to the global economy with max cause or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines two kinds a
from new york for us also you also spoke on the phone to comes in jason do you write to member of the defense team to some of the detainees who are in guantanamo now here's what he told us about the conditions the prisoners finding themselves in when i first walked to the meeting room. i met with my client my car i was shocked. more one. hundred. people who are out of. government. can only talk about. i can tell you the american. story about how what happened. still ahead for you this hour iraq...
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this is the line of defense right now. background checks. a reasonable thing given what happened in newtown, a very disturbed person involved in killing those kids. at least find out if there are people with mental oh emotional problems, who have bad records, shouldn't be getting guns. this is the time to see if the background checks work. mark and emily is here. thank you. i want to talk to mark. and let me just tell you what i want to do here tonight. i want to face faks. i'm a political guy. not especially spent my life finding gun safety although i did write my letter to congress. johnny carson said to do it and he was nonpolitical. i said, damn it, i'm going to write a letter. i think the line of defense and i hope you can focus on it right now is background checks. how can anybody oppose something that 92% of the american people want. in other words, any thoughtful person who isn't derangedly pro gun says, yeah, we ought to make sure the crazy people, whatever we want to call them, deranged, whatever, dangerous people, husbands who bea
this is the line of defense right now. background checks. a reasonable thing given what happened in newtown, a very disturbed person involved in killing those kids. at least find out if there are people with mental oh emotional problems, who have bad records, shouldn't be getting guns. this is the time to see if the background checks work. mark and emily is here. thank you. i want to talk to mark. and let me just tell you what i want to do here tonight. i want to face faks. i'm a political guy....
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at the defense table? >> sure. and i'm sure they have. i'm sure they're saying, tone it down. keep a neutral face. but your clients don't always listen to you. that's the problem with being an attorney. you can tell your client, you can advise them, lead them to the water, but you can't get them to drink. jon: this jury has been hearing this case now, i mean, it heard from her for something like 18 days of her own testimony. nobody knows yet when rebuttal, i'm sorry, when closing arguments are going to take place. faith, they have got to be getting tired of this by now, aren't they? >> i'm sure they probably are. listen, i don't think the two expert witness and other witness they're bringing will really make a difference in the jury's mind. they want to hear from jodi arias and now they have. so in their minds, they're obligated to sit and listen to all the evidence and not make a decision until the conclusion of the case but they have to be thinking at this point, they have heard her testimony now. what i
at the defense table? >> sure. and i'm sure they have. i'm sure they're saying, tone it down. keep a neutral face. but your clients don't always listen to you. that's the problem with being an attorney. you can tell your client, you can advise them, lead them to the water, but you can't get them to drink. jon: this jury has been hearing this case now, i mean, it heard from her for something like 18 days of her own testimony. nobody knows yet when rebuttal, i'm sorry, when closing...
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a day after hearing, the court of help the defense of marriage acts which denies we benefits to married same-sex couples much the issue of whether marriage should be redefined is for the people to define. >> some google employees may have been supposed to high levels of a chemical known to cause cancer. reports show that more than,000 employee could have been observation posed after part of the ventlation system was shut down that is sitting on a superfund toxic waste site near middle field road. a google spokesman says that the employees were never in danger. >> some of the largest grocers including whole foods and trader joes will not sell a type of fan engineered by a biotech firm. this is at the same time that the fooded if is expected to approve modify salmon. the new species is created by modifying the genes to make it bigger and, arguably, healthier and is the first such food approved for wide-spread human consumption. >> a judge asked two psychiatrists to examine the man facing child for stealing a intermediate from sausalito. the 62-year-old is accused of stealing the $2 millio
a day after hearing, the court of help the defense of marriage acts which denies we benefits to married same-sex couples much the issue of whether marriage should be redefined is for the people to define. >> some google employees may have been supposed to high levels of a chemical known to cause cancer. reports show that more than,000 employee could have been observation posed after part of the ventlation system was shut down that is sitting on a superfund toxic waste site near middle...
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defense. we start off with very expensive and sophisticated monitoring at a much higher level and much more comprehensively than we've had in the past. then we have supervisionary regulation, where we work with other agencies to try to cover all the empty or uncovered areas in the financial system. and then in addition, we try to use communication and similar tool s tools to effect the way that financial markets respond to monetary policy. so we do have some first lines of defense, which i think should be used first. that being said, you know, i think that given the problems that we've had, not just in the united states, but globally, in the last 15, 20 years, that we need to at least take into account these issues, as we make monetary policy. and i think most people would agree with that. what that means, exactly, depends on the circumstances. i think if the economy is in very weak condition and interest rates are very low for that purpose, it's very difficult to contemplate raising rates a l
defense. we start off with very expensive and sophisticated monitoring at a much higher level and much more comprehensively than we've had in the past. then we have supervisionary regulation, where we work with other agencies to try to cover all the empty or uncovered areas in the financial system. and then in addition, we try to use communication and similar tool s tools to effect the way that financial markets respond to monetary policy. so we do have some first lines of defense, which i...
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and i believe in a strong national defense. on that, senator mccain and i should be in agreement. >> neil: we're just learning -- you probably know, a measure to keep the government funded through the end of september but i had charley wrangle here who was saying the fact that the president has not submitted a budget, that things are notoriously late nd shouldn't be taken too seriously. part time really paraphrasing here. i raised the issue, why bother if they're just a joke. he quibbled with that, what do you think? >> i would say budgets are very important. in fact we have a law that says that all of our appropriations bills are supposed to agree with our budget. it's a blueprint for how the country's supposed to operate. every business has a budget, from a business that grosses 200,000 to $200 million, they have a budget and plan and pay attention to revenue. every business in america says that they cannot spend more than comes in. they have to pay interest if they borrow money but the balance sheet has to equal each year an
and i believe in a strong national defense. on that, senator mccain and i should be in agreement. >> neil: we're just learning -- you probably know, a measure to keep the government funded through the end of september but i had charley wrangle here who was saying the fact that the president has not submitted a budget, that things are notoriously late nd shouldn't be taken too seriously. part time really paraphrasing here. i raised the issue, why bother if they're just a joke. he quibbled...
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live to this part of their defense. the c.i.a. routinely used black water in missions throughout the world. blackwater also employed c.i.a. officers and agents and provided cover to c.i.a. agents and officers operating in covert and clandestine operations. it makes you wonder about companies like blackwater, how they're employed and how they went on their own, went rogue and can fall back on the c.i.a. excuse. former blackwater ceo eric prince elaborated in this e-mail to the daily beast. he said blackwater's work with the c.i.a. began when we provided specialized instructors and facilities that the agency lacked. in the years that followed the company became an virtual extension of the c.i.a. because we were asked time and again to carry out dangerous missions which the agency either could not or would not do in-house. joining me today to talk about this in an expert way because i'm not. we have a former clandestine c.i.a. agency lindsay moran. author of the book" blowing my cover: my life as a c.i.a. spy." is this an unique case
live to this part of their defense. the c.i.a. routinely used black water in missions throughout the world. blackwater also employed c.i.a. officers and agents and provided cover to c.i.a. agents and officers operating in covert and clandestine operations. it makes you wonder about companies like blackwater, how they're employed and how they went on their own, went rogue and can fall back on the c.i.a. excuse. former blackwater ceo eric prince elaborated in this e-mail to the daily beast. he...
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has its back -- israel, even if it has the right to act on its own defense security. it does it will be america who decides what goes on and how iran will be handled and not israel. or at least of israel acted they would have to do so in tandem with the united states. onia -- we will hear more that because -- when the present visit jordan. israel has been sitting on the sidelines on syria but it has feared the instability in syria may overspill into israel. statement at the airport there -- the basic three principles of what makes this relation to the very special to deal with iran and others. the common values, and the idea from a very specific pro-is raley, pro-american approach, but, democrats get -- , democratic and universal values, and, 3,, theological values. this is, as mike said, the historic home of the jewish people. despite differences in their size -- cities on hills. in a way, this sort of defining of relations would make it more possible for obama to put some pressure is on the day-to-day issues that preoccupy israel in the middle east. >> interesting s
has its back -- israel, even if it has the right to act on its own defense security. it does it will be america who decides what goes on and how iran will be handled and not israel. or at least of israel acted they would have to do so in tandem with the united states. onia -- we will hear more that because -- when the present visit jordan. israel has been sitting on the sidelines on syria but it has feared the instability in syria may overspill into israel. statement at the airport there -- the...
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defense secretary chuck hagel say help us end this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal laura pitiful human rights watch of things the obama administration has a discredited itself as a global human rights guardian. they are going to have to respond at some point and they need to either you know try and prosecute the detainees who do actually have credible evidence again or release them at this point only sixty gagne's actually face any formal charges half of the people there the administration has said they have no interest in prosecuting. they need q. you know act on this they cannot continue could contain people indefinitely without trial for years bombing administration that u.s. government is clearly in violation of international law and its obligations under international law and journalists don't have access even the un special rapporteur tour does not have access we don't have access it greatly limits our ability to speak with them and to understand what's happening especially regarding their detention condition and it
defense secretary chuck hagel say help us end this hunger strike but the u.s. military is maintaining it's not a big deal laura pitiful human rights watch of things the obama administration has a discredited itself as a global human rights guardian. they are going to have to respond at some point and they need to either you know try and prosecute the detainees who do actually have credible evidence again or release them at this point only sixty gagne's actually face any formal charges half of...
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authorities from officials from defense officials which is causing more reasons for condemnation and concern among the human rights activists as i've said most of the information comes from lawyers thanks to them we know that some of the inmates on hunger strike have already. been losing consciousness and coughing blood and there are certain fears that in two days on the forty fifth day of the hunger strike they might start having problems with eyesight and even more serious health problems because their condition is deteriorating the only comment we received from the us officials from the guantanamo officials in particular was that the number of inmates going on hunger strike has doubled over the last ten days and now amounts to twenty four people but that's been aired the rest of the information has been concealed and this is certainly causing concerns especially given the fact that the u.s. has been a strong advocate of human rights worldwide but when it comes to a legit violations of human rights on its own territory both some people the officials are keeping one everyone in the
authorities from officials from defense officials which is causing more reasons for condemnation and concern among the human rights activists as i've said most of the information comes from lawyers thanks to them we know that some of the inmates on hunger strike have already. been losing consciousness and coughing blood and there are certain fears that in two days on the forty fifth day of the hunger strike they might start having problems with eyesight and even more serious health problems...
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about a growing economy.about ai strong national defense. we care of about these things so much because fundamentally, we are the people who truly care about people. we love people. in this country. we want everyone to succeed in this country! am. >> i want to talk a little bit about what is logical and what is common sense. today. because we don't hear a lot of that. and i don't think that common sense should be something that is just for conservatives. liberals and everybody else should understand and enjoy common sense also. for some strange reason, sometimes they don't. >> you see, as conservatives, we shouldn't take a back seat to anybody. we have a moral cause. it is not just about balancing budgets. it is not just getting the economy going. what we stand for is not taking thing away from people. that's the other side. p this president measures success by how many people are dependent on the government. we measure success in government by just the opposite, by how many people are no longer dependent on the government. not because we ha
about a growing economy.about ai strong national defense. we care of about these things so much because fundamentally, we are the people who truly care about people. we love people. in this country. we want everyone to succeed in this country! am. >> i want to talk a little bit about what is logical and what is common sense. today. because we don't hear a lot of that. and i don't think that common sense should be something that is just for conservatives. liberals and everybody else should...
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the house defense appropriations subcommittee zeroed out funding for meads. and the only committee that contained -- that allocated funding for it was the senate appropriations subcommittee. talk about a waste of money. it is shocking to me, by the way, that this amendment makes so much sense, it has bipartisan support, and yet i can't get a vote on the floor of the united states senate to strike the money for this missile to nowhere and to apply the funds to where our troops need them so that they can actually use the funds to make sure that they have what they need to be prepared and so this to me is just appalling, that i'm being denied the right to offer this amendment, to bring it to the floor to let people vote on it at a time when we face great fiscal challenges, it is absolutely appalling to me that here in the united states senate we can't strike $380 million in funding for a missile to nowhere when we're almost $17 trillion in debt. and so, madam president, this is what's wrong with washington. it's really appalling that you cannot be in a position
the house defense appropriations subcommittee zeroed out funding for meads. and the only committee that contained -- that allocated funding for it was the senate appropriations subcommittee. talk about a waste of money. it is shocking to me, by the way, that this amendment makes so much sense, it has bipartisan support, and yet i can't get a vote on the floor of the united states senate to strike the money for this missile to nowhere and to apply the funds to where our troops need them so that...